I HAD a short but interesting conversation with Heriot's Director of Rugby Neil Meikle prior to yesterday's Glasgow Hawks v Heriot's Premiershp clash at Balgray. Basically, Neil reckons the figures I have been quoting for the potential running costs of a Super- franchise are absoute rubbish and way over the top.
Neil Meikle: "Aristotle, your figures are wrong"
Neil
reckons, my estimate of present-day budgets in the Premiership – I
thought £150,000 per season as a ball park figure; Neil believes that is way over the top
– far-less my £300,000 per season estimate for an S6 franchise,
never mind the upwards of £500,000 per season which my
internationalist's parent reckoned the other week.
Neil,
who is invovled at the sharp end, may well be right in his assertion,
and, if he is, good luck to him. He believes at this level, players
simply want to play, and being able to enjoy the game they love,
comes some way behind any payment for most of the guys in the
Premiership.
Again,
Neil may well be correct, and, if he and Phil Smith and the rest of
the team at Goldnacre can get the sort of performance they did out of
their team in their six-try demolition of Hawks on Saturday without
paying big money – more power to them. But, I think, once S6
kicks-in at the end of the season, Heriot's will discover, money
talks and if players are going to be expected to make the greater
commitment to the semi-professional league that is being spoken
about, in terms of training time, well they will surely want to be
better paid.
Of
course, as I keep stressing with this whole Super-6 thing, we are
stepping into something of an unknown with this move. Heriot's
players, in seeking to demonstrate that their club is the best in
Scotland, are merely following in the footsteps of Andy Irvine, the
Milnes, Iwan Tukalo, the Lawsons and so forth. The Nails have always
been in the forefront of the club game.
But,
running a franchised team, tasked with being the “bridge” between
the play for fun amateurs and the hard-nosed professionals at Glasgow
and Edinburgh – that's a whole different ball game, and I think the
guys running whatever the Heriot's-based franchise is called will
find – if they want to be competitive, they will need to pay a good
bit more than is currently the case.
The
guys tasked with finding the money to keep the franchise going will
surely discover too – players talk to each other, and, when that
happens, things escalate.
Let's
say (and I am plucking these figures out of my head): Heriot's are
paying a late-rate £50 per week in “expenses” to cover a player
commiting to two nights per week of training, plus a match. Over a
40-week season, that's £2000 per player – 35 players: £70,000 per
season in expenses.
Now,
suppose one of the other Edinburgh Edinburgh franchises is offering
£75 per week, well, if that second franchise reckons the Heriot's
scrum-half is a better player than the one they have, they have a
pretty powerful recruiting tool towards getting him. Suddenly you
have not only a bidding war, but, also, the thinking enters the
dressing room: “Wait a minute, if he's worth that, maybe I am
selling myself short here.”
Before
you know it, wages across the city are rising. In a semi-professional
league, things such as appearance money will soon come in. A greater
commitment will be called for from players – good luck in keeping
costs down Neil, you will need it.
ANY
WAY,
S6 is in the future, what of the present and Saturday's events in the
Premiership. A glance at the table after the opening round of matches
shows a familiar landscape – Melrose, Heriot's, Currie and Ayr, the
usual suspects, occupying the first four places, followed by
Watsonians, then Stirling County – five franchise winners in the
top six places,
I
would not be at all surprised if the top four after Saturday are the
four clubs who go through to the play-offs, but, there are 17 more
rounds of games to go and a lot can change.
Phil Smith - purring at the end
Heriot's
were impressive in putting to the sword a Hawks XV which included All
Black Lelia Masaga and a further three Warriors full-timers. Not even
the loss of both starting locks: Adam Sinclair and Callum Marshall,
could depower the Edinburgh pack, for whom Iain Wilson gave a genuine
captain's display, that had Phil Smith purring, not least because he claims he rarely, if ever, sees his side win their opening league fixture.
Wilson
has been virtually side-lined by injury over the past two seasons,
but, on Saturday, even before his immediate opponent was red-carded,
he had the better of his head-to-head with Warriors' Matt Smith. On
the other side of the scrum, the battle between Ruaridh Leishman and
Bruce Flockhart was also cracking entertainment.
Phil
Smith was also chuffed to bits by the play of Andrew Simmers at
scrum-half. Having taught Andrew at Glasgow Academy – where else
would a Simmers be educated – he is delighted at how the kid has
matured, and rightly so.
Heriot's
strength is up front, but, the Goldenacre legacy of excellent backs
remains, even if, as yet, some of the current crop are a wee bit
under-appreciated.
Hawks
are having to depend on youth this season. OK, we all know: “You
win nothing with kids,” but, if this squad, and there were at least
four teenagers in the starting XV, can keep their heads up, they will
learn quickly and surprise one or two sides this season.
Lelia Masaga - influencing the Hawks youngsters
Lelia
Masaga was praised by coach Fin Gillies for his input – image, at
18, getting to play alongside an All Black,. If you cannot benefit
from that, there is no hope for you. Flockhart gave a rousing display
at six, while Grant Stewart has clearly benefitted from his summer
“holiday” with the Scotland squad in North America. I predict, he
will be starting for Warriors before this season is over – and I
know the competition he faces there.
Finally,
Saturday saw another excellent refereeing display from Ben Blain, the
Cumbrian really has become a welcome addition to the ranks of
Scottish match officials.



ok, quick question about budgets.
ReplyDeleteWhich budget does the cost of the match officials come from for Super 6 - Domestic or Performance Rugby?
Cause obviously the refs & match officials will also need to be part-time pro as well as the players.
A very interesting question pegj. On a similar theme will thecfranchise be included in the SRU player insurance cover? And the refs expenses budget?
DeleteNow how would an insurance company assess the risk of part time professional players? And would that level of cover (it’s pretty poor) be acceptable to a part time pro?
Good question pegj - I will try to find out.
ReplyDeleteGood on you getting a chat with Phil.
ReplyDeleteI have to say I think his grasp of arithmetic is quite worrying for a school teacher.
We have already discussed that the franchises will need to pay national minimum wage. So that’s £7.83 for 25 yrs and above, £7.38 for 21-24 and £5.90 for 18-20.
A rough guesstimate is 10 hours per week - 6 hrs training and 4 playing. Across 40 weeks of the year. Let’s assume 15 players above 25, 15 21-24 and 5 18-20. That’s a wage bill of £103k
This will also bring employers costs for tax and NI.
Why would someone want to play for national minimum wage?? I’ve heard rumours of various clubs paying £10-12k for one player. Why would someone go to an S6 side for less than they may have been getting in the Premiership?
So unless Phil expects S6 part time pros to play fir Free - which sort of undermines setting up a part time league - how else does he expect to get players?
The other fly in the ointment is if the other clubs get to pay players as well....
And does he expect the assistant coaches, physios, doctor, admin staff/team manager to also work for min wage?
DeleteTo be accurate, it was Neil Meikle, rather than Phil Smith I was speaking to.
DeleteDoes it matter, when all these S6 bandwagon advocates at times appear wired to the moon anyway?
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