I
AM told, I spend too-much time on Facebook, and ought to get a life.
That criticism might have a point, but, just occasionally, Facebook
throws up something which can be useful.
There
was such a moment yesterday, when under a picture of a
Stirling County Under-18 team, celebrating at Murrayfield, the
question was asked: “When was the last Glasgow KO Cup played, and
who are the current holders. The
notion is the last final was in 1988-89 and
Clarkston beat Dalziel, making them the current holders. I believe that font of all knowledge, Bill McMurtrie,(left), is
perhaps the only man alive who can answer the question.
Any
way, what a wonderful competition the old KO Cup was. As I remember,
the first two or three rounds were played midweek, in September. This
sorted the wheat from the chaff, with the competition going into
hibernation until the Spring, when it was played, again mainly in
midweek, once the clocks had changed to BST.
Leaving
aside our disastrous Murrayfield visit for the Bowl Final, three
years or so ago, the greatest moment for Cumnock Rugby Club came in
March, 1969, when we lined-up against West of Scotland in the KO Cup
semi-final, at Old Anniesland. Now, back then, Cumnock's friendly
fixture against West was with their 3rd XV, so, here we
were, about to line-up against their first team, the newly capped
Gordon Brown (pictured above), packing down in the boiler-house with the veteran former
England cap John Currie – of Marques and Currie fame; another
England cap, Lionel Weston at scrum-half, with future Scotland hooker
Quintin Dunlop and Scotland B caps Ian Murchie and Alex Wilson, who
like the Browns had taken the drove road from Ayrshire to Burnbrae.
At
least, West didn't have Sandy Carmichael, with that great and
versatile Burnbrae man Jim Dinsmore in the number three shirt. But,
without Sandy, our pack proved very obdurate and we were actually
winning, with ten minutes left – when Murchie decided: “I'm
fucked if I'm losing to Cumnock,” to single-handedly drag West over
the line.
Now,
Cumnock should have kicked-on from there, unfortunately, within
18-months, 16 of the 18 of us who had been in that Old Anniesland
dressing room had quit the club and it took a couple of generations
for the club to recover. But, the point of that long-winded story is,
memories such as that are what the old KO Cup was all about.
Ayr
were a “semi-junior” club when, in 1962, they reached the KO Cup
final. That got some guys in the club thinking – are we happy to
play on Council pitches at Heathfield, or should we maybe look for
our own ground and clubhouse? Alistair “Speedy” McMillan, who
interrupted a Caribbean honeymoon to play in that 1962 final, in his
day job in the family law firm, was asked to sell a market garden in
Alloway, so he did. That market garden was Millbrae, the rest is
history – but, reaching the KO Cup final was a factor in the club's
rise.
Another
factor in its appeal was, every year, at least one junior club
generally made it through to the later rounds and the big clubs:
West, Accies, GHK, Ayr etc, quite often got a close look at talent
they could attempt to entice to higher things.
The
competition also kept players who maybe didn't play Sevens involved
into April, as did the now discontinued County Cups. Today – and I
appreciate the horrible weather of this winter has been a factor, we
will still be playing into May, but, generally this does not apply.
Any way, as I said, these local competitions such as the KO Cup and
the County Cups were usually midweek games.
Rugby is a players' game - so, allow them to play
We
keep hearing: “Rugby is a players' game.” Well, give them a
canvas on which they can play. With their fixation with the top
levels of the game, the international side and the two pro teams, and
now they are angling for a say in the club game through Stupid 6, I
fear the Murrayfield “suits” have lost sight of what this game is
all about – which is, you train, you go out and play, you and your
opponent knock the shite out of each other, then you retire to the
bar and buy each other a jar or three.
If
we lose that, we are all doomed!!
Clearing
out a storage box last week, I came across my stats book for the
early 1970s, when I was combining part-time freelance journalism with
being Ayr RFC's first team touch judge. One season, the first XV
played - between 1 September and 30 April, which were the
set-in-stone start and finish dates for the season – a total of 41
games, in which tight-head prop John Burston played in 38 (a
tight-head playing every minute of 38 games, how quaint).
This
season, between their first pre-season friendly against GHA on 12
August, and Saturday's BT Premiership Grand Final at Melrose, the Ayr
first team has played just 23 games. Burston, unlike his present-day
successor Steven Longwell, wasn't being paid to play for Ayr.
Those
1970s fixtures were split roughly 50/50 between home and away games,
so, 20 home games at Millbrae, and no players to pay. This season, 23
games, 12 of them at Millbrae, players to pay – ok, paid
admissions, which wasn't a factor back then, but, not so-many busy
Saturdays for bar income today. I don't know if fewer fixtures is an
advancement.
I
hope, some time soon, the Murrayfield “suits” will realise –
yes, we need income-generating fixtures, specifically the
internationals. Sure we need the national team and the two pro sides
as the shop windows of our game, but, the bread and butter stuff is
the players who turn-out, unpaid, week-in, week-out, to play rugby
because they enjoy it.
They
need games to play, and people to play against. Fewer clubs, nothing
but league games is not the way to do this and support and encourage
club rugby.


It’s not often that I disagree with you AMcS but think you are comparing apples with oranges here.
ReplyDeleteThe modem game is very different to the one you describe. Try putting Cumnock up against Hawks or Marr. What result would you predict?
I recall Strathendrick having a great cup pedigree back in the day and took some great scalps at home. Usually on an awful day on a bog of a pitch.
The main reason is one of player safety. Putting regional clubs up against National and Premier ones is a recipe for disaster.
In theory regional cups are a great idea. In practice they are a nightmare especially with our unpredictable weather. Any West clubs would struggle to find a spare Saturday to fit it in.
Sorry but this is a non starter
Fair point, it would probably be a mistake to mix the junior and senior clubs, but, I feel we need to look at some way of offering more rugby, beyond the league games, for the guys who simply want to play rugby.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Aussie Rugby League-style "State of Origin" eligibility rules. I wonder, do Ayr have 15 Ayrshiremen in their squad?
This season started on the 26 August. It is scheduled to end on the 19 May.
ReplyDeleteThat’s 38 weeks.
Remove three weeks for Christmas & New Year. Three weeks for Autumn Tests and 5 weeks for 6N. That’s 11 weeks.
We now have 27 weeks to play with. A 12 team league has 22 fixtures. Cup/Shield/bowl games are also required. Not much wriggle room for extra games.
Granted there are stand by dates as the leagues were supposed to be finished by the 7 April.
I think, this season's poor weather has shown, 12-team leagues are a no-no.
ReplyDeleteAnd, I also fail to see why club games have to be cancelled for internationals. We used to play on Sundays for league games, why not still?
In football, the juniors, and the lower "senior" leagues do not stop for internationals - for a start, none of their players are involved. Why should the club rugby game shut down totaly for internationals, they can still be played around.
We need to look at the structure of the entire Scottish game, not simply bring in something new to help-out Murrayfield.
See there you go again SMcS. Looking at the whole system rather than ticketing at the edges.
ReplyDeleteIf the answer is Super 6 and Agenda 3. What is the question?
Or put another way. What is the problem we are trying to solve?
Tinkering rather than ticketing....
DeleteThe problem they (the Murrayfield "suits") are trying to solve is, in my opinion:
DeleteThey cannot finance their notions of what the professional arm of the game should be. They will not give outside investors a good-enough deal to buy-into financing this, so, they have to find a way of extracting more money from their shareholders - the amateur clubs, by persuading six of them to take on the bulk of the costly work of player development. Hence - Stupid 6, with Agenda 3 as a sop to those left out.